Pablo P. Practice Journal
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[b:3p2pa0d7]Length of Sits: [/b:3p2pa0d7] 40-50' most days, tried to stretch it to 80'. Skipped two days in a row
[b:3p2pa0d7]Posture:[/b:3p2pa0d7] half-lotus
[b:3p2pa0d7]Cutting Edge Insight Stage of the Session:[/b:3p2pa0d7] Low EQ
[b:3p2pa0d7]Meditative Techniques Utilized:[/b:3p2pa0d7] I tried many things: all-round silent noting with earplugs, four-foundations noting with and without earplugs.
[b:3p2pa0d7]General Thoughts: [/b:3p2pa0d7]
* With earplugs on, sometimes DN symptoms usually presents themselves through thoughts and pain in the left (or right) nadis ([u:3p2pa0d7]near the collarbone[/u:3p2pa0d7]), probably because of the earplugs, so it's a warning to be understood. Other times, the ear tones get really loud, and it's very difficult to investigate them. Usually, I can note 3 or 4 different pitches, see their "endings" and also a full gap (lack) of sounds. It takes a lot of work to keep track of them. But more often, I slide into the concentration camp, as this ear tones get replaced by a low pitch and vibrating tone, that it's harder to investigate than the previous higher pitches. So I can just keep hearing it, and soon I lose momentum.
* Thoughts can be easily noted as not-self. But there seems to be a degree of "distance". That is, sometimes they are less me than others. I was expecting more of a binary situation, so I was a little surprised. There seems to be many shades of grey in between me and not-self/true-self.
* Its becoming easier to note thoughts off-cushion, and many times I play with focusing in the pleasant aspects when negative mental-states pop up. It's kind of fun. [u:3p2pa0d7]Added: [/u:3p2pa0d7]also, I easily notice how thoughts trigger tension in the temples and skull.
* Low Equanimity seems to be all about dealing with Aversion, in my experience.
[b:3p2pa0d7]Goal for Next Session:[/b:3p2pa0d7] Keep trying to sit for longer periods, 90' would be best.
- PabloP
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[b:3hlajhwg]Length of Sits:[/b:3hlajhwg] 40-80' most days
[b:3hlajhwg]Posture:[/b:3hlajhwg] half-lotus
[b:3hlajhwg]Where am I:[/b:3hlajhwg] Low key DN off-cushion, climbing up to Low EQ in the sits
[b:3hlajhwg]Meditative Techniques Utilized:[/b:3hlajhwg] Noting pairs feeling-tones + any other of the three, observing the pleasant on the unpleasant sensations, mind-states and thoughts, or watching with amaze any kind of feeling-tone. Applied metta to the noted objects, as if they were not me ( the "metta-sanna" <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_smile.gif" alt="
[b:3hlajhwg]General Thoughts: [/b:3hlajhwg]
* Concentration is building up day after day, but I alternate between moments of great concentration and others of stream of thoughts.
* Instead of doing the Four Foundation Noting, I focused on the feeling-tones in order to see if the insight dynamic would be different. As I noticed that most of all notes were unpleasant, I decided to investigate them, and detect any pleasantness in them. That derived into watching the unpleasant objects with amaze, and then actively apply metta (empathetic joy) to them. This metta then dissolves into an equanimity. As the metta isn't applied externally to any human but to inward phenomena that arise and pass away, I call it "metta-sanna" as it merges metta and vipassana. It's similar to Bhante Vimalaramsi's method, but instead of dissolving with a smile any tension in the head triggered by thoughts, here's a pre-thought moment (watching physical sensations & feeling-tones), plus the metta is applied in every body part and to any sensation, being them pleasant, unpleasant or neutral (the spacial sensations). Also, the speed of the practice is closer to vipassana-noting (~5 seconds) than to a typical samatha-metta.
Regarding the 3C's, the unending necessity of applying metta shows dukkha, the stream of sensations observed initially with amaze and the transformation of joy into equanimity shows annica, and the watching and application of metta to inner objects as they were other than me shows anatta.
[b:3hlajhwg]Goal for Next Session:[/b:3hlajhwg] Keep trying to sit for longer periods, 90' would be best.
- PabloP
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From now on, I plan to first:
1. Have at least 5 hours of non-stop night sleep.
2. Get back to standard Mahasi noting practice, in order to get back to EQ.
3. Find a coach/teacher.
- Antero
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"PabloP":2b4wl4pp wrote: Then, I changed the focus from noting the four phenomena to note degrees of clinging/aversion, and watch how I reacted to them. Finally, with a focus on jhanas, I observed how clinging/aversion impede a fuller experience. The thing is that when I tried to get back to a standard noting practice, it felt like starting from zero again.
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Welcome back, Pablo!
It is interesting how this clinging/aversion thing works underneath all the emotions, basically giving rise to them and we don't necessarily notice it happening when we are doing noting on the cushion. If you want to explore this theme further, one great application is to note pairs: feeling tone + your reaction to it. It could go like this:
unpleasant - aversion
pleasant - greed
unpleasant - greed
neutral - aversion
pleasant - aversion
Things are not as straightforward as one might think, so it is a worth of to try.
- PabloP
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In fact, I've been doing this noting by pairs, and usually what I noted was big deal of aversion everywhere, so that's why I tried to note the degree of aversion, in a 0 to 5 scale. Complementary to that, I tried to put the focus not in aversion but in pleasantness, to find if there's some kind of pleasure (or at least interest) in unpleasant phenomena, in order to have a more balanced view (it's easy to find the other way round <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt="
Thanks for your help.
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- Antero
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"PabloP":3t7qja6q wrote: Hi Antero!
In fact, I've been doing this noting by pairs, and usually what I noted was big deal of aversion everywhere, so that's why I tried to note the degree of aversion, in a 0 to 5 scale. Complementary to that, I tried to put the focus not in aversion but in pleasantness, to find if there's some kind of pleasure (or at least interest) in unpleasant phenomena, in order to have a more balanced view (it's easy to find the other way round <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> ).[/quote:3t7qja6q]
That is a great application, thanks for sharing!
It is my experience also that if any of the three feeling tones are exclusively present, we are not seeing the reality clearly.
- Antero
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"PabloP":rn2o931u wrote: So far, it's not so easy to see the greed in the thoughts, but it's easier to spot the physical tension associated.[/quote:rn2o931u]
See if you can feel the size of your attention. Sometimes it is expansive and it feels good. Other times it is hovering tightly around the shape of our bodies, or it might even contract for example at the area behind the eyes. Each thought makes the attention contract, which not surprising because most of our thinking is mind grasping an object that is absent.
This is self contraction and is feels painful. If you can develop the feel for the expansion and contraction of the attention, you will start to see aversion/greed phenomena in a very detailed way and feel it as a physical pressure in the head or stomach created by the movement of the attention.
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One mistake I noticed is that while doing the standard Mahasi method, I was noting the trees and not the forest, that instead I should note both at the same time. It was making me jump from one phenomena to another, instead of seeing the big picture, perhaps gaining in insight at the cost of adding more tension to the attention. I've found that (triggered by aversion) jumping from one phenomena to another didn't allow me to fully sense their arising and passing away. Instead, I let the pleasure or tension rise fully and see how it eventually fades partially/completely.
After some sessions, I've sensed the expansion/contraction of attention in the body, but also in the near a rounds, like a magnetic field, something I noted months ago during A&P. In fact, this week I had a mix of mild A&P and DN symptoms, and a closer and calmer stepping into early 1st jhana.
- PabloP
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Shinzen Young offers four Noting strategies, plus a traverse noting tool that crosses/mixes with all of them.
[size=150:13otkjti][b:13otkjti]Focus In:[/b:13otkjti][/size:13otkjti] deconstruct the self by exploring mental images and talk, plus emotional body sensations. The divide and conquer strategy (five aggregates, four foundations, four elements). It’s the closest method to Mahasi Sayadaw Noting.
[size=150:13otkjti][b:13otkjti]Focus Out:[/b:13otkjti][/size:13otkjti] experiencing oneness with the outside world by anchoring to external sights and sounds, plus exploring the physical body sensations. It merges aspects of Zen practice and Taoist monistic philosophy.
[size=150:13otkjti][b:13otkjti]Focus on Rest:[/b:13otkjti][/size:13otkjti] feel a restful body and mind, by learning how muscles relax either by themselves or because of an intentional relaxation. Also note when the body is without emotional feeling. The main difference with a other Samatha traditions is that you have to note/label whether the restful feelings come from visual, auditory o body aspects.
[size=150:13otkjti][b:13otkjti]Focus on Flow:[/b:13otkjti][/size:13otkjti] keep track of the change of sensory experience, and the (outer and inner) forces that create that change. There are two versions of this noting strategy. The first one is focus on the flow of phenomena (akin to noting impermanence, or the Qi flow focus of Chinese medicine and martial arts). The second one is focus on expansion-contraction (akin to Taoism (Yin-Yang), Taichichuan’s filling & emptying, and Joshu Sasaki’s Zen).
In the first version, notes should be done on visual, auditory and somatic flow. The labels are just those three, though they are referring to the many facets of flow. For example, in “somatic flow” you keep track of increase-decrease of intensity, frequency and size, and the inward-outward pressures plus the display of vibrations (as bubbliness, undulations, vibrations,etc).
In the second version, you note the simultaneous expansion-contraction forces within each phenomena, or of different ones. IMO, this kind of method works best when coupled with the Gone noting tool, which a describe below. Here the labels are just three: expansion, contraction and both, where you add later “gone”.
[size=150:13otkjti][b:13otkjti]Focus on Gone:[/b:13otkjti][/size:13otkjti] note vanishings, that is the passing part of A&P. This noting tool feeds and is feed by all other four focuses, though it’s not easy to note vanishings in an already restful body and mind (Focus on Rest). The idea is that by noting a stream of “micro-endings” eventually the gaps between the “gones” get shorter and shorter until a figure-ground reversal takes place. Gone then becomes the abiding ground. IMO, the shortage of labels in Shinzen Young’s noting strategies seek not only reduce the complexity of the job, but also foster an equanimous perception and in particular let those “gone moments” show up.
So far, I have tailored my own noting strategy (as Shinzen Young encourages), where off-cushion I Focus Out and Focus on Gone, and on-cushion I blend both Focus on Flow versions with Focus on Gone. In particular, I found that there is a (needed) complement to note vanishings, which is noting the “tipping point” when/where and expansion switches to a contraction, and vice versa. It’s like a gone moment while I’m still fully immersed in the phenomena. In that way, I put myself in a situation where equanimously should wait for all phenomena to unravel and show itself. There’s also another third tipping point, where phenomena arises out of a restful state, but it’s harder to catch (unless probably you already have a deep concentration skills, which I don’t). Occasionally, I do see that happen with spontaneous Taoist reverse-breathing.
In short, my noting labels are: “pop” when a visual, auditory or body phenomena pops up, “expansion” when it grows, “contraction” when it shrinks, “change” in the tipping-point, “gone” when it vanishes, and “rest” when nothing arises. All along the sitting session there are plenty of times when I have a broader perspective and I’m able note expansion-contraction by pairs (“both” label). So far, I haven’t seen them both disappear by pairs too often, but do happen individually or in sequence: an expansion-gone moment and then (or before) a contraction-gone moment.
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- The "pop" label I mentioned earlier is needless. Phenomena always is arising, but I can't note it at the very beginning. The rare occasion when I can note it is when just before there was a gone moment. But in this case, the phenomena (usually bodily sensations) show up as expansion/contraction. So, the noting labels in use are expansion, change, contraction, gone, rest.
- Only a few longish events can be noted with all of the labels, like outside sounds, a full tension-relaxation cycle, the breathing cycle. Otherwise, spanning from easy to difficult, I:
1) Note contraction in one place, and expansion in other non obviously related place.
2) Note expansion and an associated contraction in the same place, with different intensities.
3) Note a rapid succession of expansions and contractions.
4) Note a gone and then either a restful state or a clear stream of expansions/contractions.
5) Stay fully equanimous (as I can) not trying to relax a building tension, in order to let develop completely, arise and pass away (when the tension is big, usually a gone moment vanishes that tension).
- During the first couple of days I had these moments when I stayed without thoughts while performing daily tasks, amazed by sounds. Then this disappeared and my mind was full of thoughts anytime. Nowadays, if I focus on sounds off-cushion I may (not always) have this thoughtless moments. Other phenomena spotted during these days (colorful dreams & cool flow energy --> fear images & restless thoughts & uneasiness in the chest and throat --> vanishing of all of the later coupled with easier concentration and more gone moments) let me think that I was sailing through A&P, DÑ and Low EQ.
