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14 years 3 months ago #4009
by Dharma Comarade
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For those of you who are experienced with this (seems to be quite a few of you here), would you say that there are positive effects on one's well being, general mood and happiness that continue for a period of time after a sitting?
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14 years 3 months ago #4010
by Chris Marti
Replied by Chris Marti on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
Mike, are you asking about concentration practices in particular (topic title) or any kind of sitting in general? I find sitting to be generally peaceful but it has not always been that way. If I do concentration practices then sitting can induce very blissful states and those carry over into after-sitting life, sometimes for quite a while. Investigation, like really deep vipassana, does not generally lead to bliss or blissful states and can, in fact, be rather jarring. But vipassana generally has less after-sitting effects depending on the nature of the investigation I was doing. I do other practices that may/may not have much after-sitting effect, depending on the practice and what I'm doing afterward.
I know this sounds like it's all over the place but the effects tend to be all over the place. I have never been into sitting just to relax or to reduce stress, I guess. Maybe that's a shame on me but I don't think putting a band aid on a gaping wound is a good long term fix for the gaping wound
I know this sounds like it's all over the place but the effects tend to be all over the place. I have never been into sitting just to relax or to reduce stress, I guess. Maybe that's a shame on me but I don't think putting a band aid on a gaping wound is a good long term fix for the gaping wound
14 years 3 months ago #4011
by Ona Kiser
Replied by Ona Kiser on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
When I've done concentration, jhana or similar practices (such as bliss-generating chanting or breath work), it definitely carries over a sense of peace, bliss or relaxation for a few minutes, hours or days, depending on how consistently I do the practice. I agree with Chris it's very different from vipassana type sitting, which doesn't have that effect.
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14 years 3 months ago #4012
by Dharma Comarade
Replied by Dharma Comarade on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
I'm asking specifically about concentration/samatha and not vipassana
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14 years 3 months ago #4013
by Chris Marti
Replied by Chris Marti on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
Why?
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14 years 3 months ago #4014
by Dharma Comarade
Replied by Dharma Comarade on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
why?
because for the first time I've somehow managed to get pretty concentrated and I noticed a subsequent change in mood for hours later and I wondered if more experienced people had that two or if maybe something else had caused it.
I like feeling settled, focused, happy.
because for the first time I've somehow managed to get pretty concentrated and I noticed a subsequent change in mood for hours later and I wondered if more experienced people had that two or if maybe something else had caused it.
I like feeling settled, focused, happy.
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14 years 3 months ago #4015
by Chris Marti
Replied by Chris Marti on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
Excellent!
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14 years 3 months ago #4016
by Kate Gowen
Replied by Kate Gowen on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
Thanks for adding the clarification, Mike-- and thanks to Chris for eliciting it-- I saw 'jhanas' and thought, 'Don't know nothin' 'bout no jhanas, don't know what nirodha samipatti's for...'
But reading what you've written, Mike, about the effect of spending time in concentration states, on the post-meditation [majority of life!]-- that IS something I have noticed. And another question on one of my other forum activities reminded me that I started meditating in 1965, when Jerry Jarvis came around on his second sweep through Berkeley organizing the Students' Meditation Society, and I got my Transcendental Meditation mantra and started meditating 20 minutes, twice a day. I did it for a decade, on my own-- and it has only just dawned on me: that COUNTS as part of my path!
And it did have the effect of stabilizing me in all sorts of ways that I stopped noticing and took for granted in fairly short order. I just wove it into the narrative about 'how I am and have always been'-- unusually calm and generally cheerful [to a sometimes annoying degree]; immune to the allure of extremes of lifestyle. If I try to remember 'before', I'd have to say, 'Whoa! That's a real change from the hardscrabble kid with a very fragile sense of belonging anywhere and a pervasive pessimism about the planet...'
So maybe I'm way overdue to being grateful to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, RIP.
But reading what you've written, Mike, about the effect of spending time in concentration states, on the post-meditation [majority of life!]-- that IS something I have noticed. And another question on one of my other forum activities reminded me that I started meditating in 1965, when Jerry Jarvis came around on his second sweep through Berkeley organizing the Students' Meditation Society, and I got my Transcendental Meditation mantra and started meditating 20 minutes, twice a day. I did it for a decade, on my own-- and it has only just dawned on me: that COUNTS as part of my path!
And it did have the effect of stabilizing me in all sorts of ways that I stopped noticing and took for granted in fairly short order. I just wove it into the narrative about 'how I am and have always been'-- unusually calm and generally cheerful [to a sometimes annoying degree]; immune to the allure of extremes of lifestyle. If I try to remember 'before', I'd have to say, 'Whoa! That's a real change from the hardscrabble kid with a very fragile sense of belonging anywhere and a pervasive pessimism about the planet...'
So maybe I'm way overdue to being grateful to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, RIP.
14 years 3 months ago #4017
by Shargrol
Replied by Shargrol on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
I'm a puppy at concentration stuff, but it really does linger and effect my mood for hours/days. And it effects other people's mood around me, like they get a contact high. Which makes me feel good, which perpetuates it even more. I think that a little bliss does wonders for our circuitry and makes it harder to fall into old negative patterns. My mind just doesn't want "ill will" if it has recently known the alternative.
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14 years 3 months ago #4018
by Jake St. Onge
Replied by Jake St. Onge on topic Effects of jhana/concentration practices
